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Post by Pacifico on Apr 24, 2023 7:20:25 GMT
Is being Jewish a separate race. Yes. |
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Post by thomas on Apr 24, 2023 7:21:16 GMT
comment from carol vorderman. Never mind diane , the labour parties PFI poles in glasgow city centre costing ten times the original amount are a wonderfull feat of engineering putting the party on a par with the legacy of the ancient egyptians and their pyramids....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2023 7:23:41 GMT
I do not deny that there was a problem with anti semitism within the Labour Party, a problem which existed because the party at the time was controled by the far left, and led by Jeremy Corbyn. The problem was not widespread, it was a problem amongst a small group of MPs, and was not stamped upon because (A) the leadership was weak, and (B) the leader held similar views.
Against these facts, one has to remember and understand that the Labour Party has had a long and close association with the British Jewish community, there are several thousand Jewish Labour members, there have been many Jewish Labour MPs, there are today Jewish Labour MPs.
To put things into proper context - this is an issue with Dianne Abbot
Unlike in the Conservative Party where wrong-doers always try to hang onto power like grim death, the leader of the Labour Party acted swiftly, Dianne Abbot was immediately suspended.
No one can hold the Labour Party to account over the actions of one renegade MP, Keir Starmer has unequivocally and unreservedlly apologised for what happened under the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn.
Despite the fuitle attempts of some, the British electorate will undoubtablly see this for what it really is, a strong leader acting decisevelly and swiftly against an MP of the hardline Left, proving, if proof were still needed that THEIR day is now over, and Labour is now once again electable.
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Post by thomas on Apr 24, 2023 7:23:49 GMT
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Post by thomas on Apr 24, 2023 7:26:39 GMT
I do not deny that there was a problem with anti semitism within the Labour Party, a problem which existed because the party at the time was controled by the far left, and led by Jeremy Corbyn. The problem was not widespread, it was a problem amongst a small group of MPs, and was not stamped upon because (A) the leadership was weak, and (B) the leader held similar views. Against these facts, one has to remember and understand that the Labour Party has had a long and close association with the British Jewish community, there are several thousand Jewish Labour members, there have been many Jewish Labour MPs, there are today Jewish Labour MPs. To put things into proper context - this is an issue with Dianne Abbot Unlike in the Conservative Party where wrong-doers always try to hang onto power like grim death, the leader of the Labour Party acted swiftly, Dianne Abbot was immediately suspended. No one can hold the Labour Party to account over the actions of one renegade MP, Keir Starmer has unequivocally and unreservedlly apologised for what happened under the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn. Despite the fuitle attempts of some, the British electorate will undoubtablly see this for what it really is, a strong leader acting decisevelly and swiftly against an MP of the hardline Left, proving, if proof were still needed that THEIR day is now over, and Labour is now once again electable. laughable laughable rubbish of deflections , tory whataboutary and utter denial.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2023 7:32:12 GMT
Labour will probably do well in Scotland and win a lot of seats from the SNP now that the dream is dead and the party is in shambles.
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Post by thomas on Apr 24, 2023 7:34:40 GMT
poor auld b4. Trolling threads yet again as ever becasue he is butthurt about scotland.
Dont you think its great these labour party racists are being called out b4?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2023 7:38:25 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2023 7:45:20 GMT
No B-4 There is nothing wrong with your post, it is a relevant point that you make, Scotland has been an SNP stronghold for some years now, but prior to that time Scotland was Labour territory.
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Post by thomas on Apr 24, 2023 7:46:09 GMT
well there is , because you are trolling the thread about stuff you are butthurt about from over on the scottish threads.
I will humour you once more though.
uk wide polls for the hard of understanding b4....
Start of 2023:
Labour 46.5%
Conservatives 26.8%
LABOUR LEAD: 19.7%
Now:
Labour 44.3%
Conservatives 29.7%
LABOUR LEAD: 14.6%
scottish wide polls for the hard of understanding b4....
Seats projection (with changes from 2021 election): SNP 51 (-13), Labour 33 (+11), Conservatives 23 (-8), Greens 12 (+4), Liberal Democrats 10 (+6)
Now anything is possible b4 , but at the minute , labour are stalled in scotland according to the polls , and are sitting where they have been since last september in second place , for both holyrood and uk scottish constituencies , and acorss the uk for westmisnter their lead is falling.
The snp ( just one but the main party of scot indy at minute) are obviously wounded , but im not sure what dream is dead mate. Certainly not according to any poll .
Now perhaps we could get away from trolling and back on topic .Happy to discuss over on scot threads when you recover from being butturt.
Do you think it good the labour racists are being called out b4?
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Post by thomas on Apr 24, 2023 7:47:33 GMT
but prior to that time Scotland was Labour territory. it was and they ran scotland into the ground , taking glasgow from the second city of empire to the worst in the devoloped world.
Labour are poison in scotland with the blairites of starmer being hated with a passion.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2023 7:48:07 GMT
If you have to go back to 2021 then you have no argument, Thomas. Read my posts again, several times if need be, and try and learn something by understanding what I said.
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Post by thomas on Apr 24, 2023 7:51:59 GMT
If you have to go back to 2021 then you have no argument, Thomas. Read my posts again, several times if need be, and try and learn something by understanding what I said. These are current polls hen. Re read the dates.
another from a few days back....
archive.is/oz1RrYouGov: Pro-indy majority despite drop in SNP support
NEW voting data suggests that Holyrood would retain a pro-indy majority despite a drop in support for the SNP following the resignation of Nicola Sturgeon and an investigation into party finances.
Note this is a ‘no change’ poll. It is within MoE variance on Yougov’s last one, and has all parties at identical levels to those seen since Sturgeon’s resignation in February.
So no clear impact of campervangate.
What’s very interesting is Labour are completely unable to make any hay out of things. They’ve been stuck at the same level on average since minibudget gate gave them a boost from the Tories back in September-October last year.
Seems they have a max 30% ceiling (at best) that they’re just never going to break in Scotland, even when the SNP in a storm with the entire British media on the backs.
This is a result of Scotland’s voting being strongly along constitutional lines now, meaning they won’t be able to change. To many voters are just ‘Scottish not British’ now and they just vote for Scottish parties only; the devolution generations being the classic example of these. They’ll never ‘come home to British Labour’ as they’ve never been British nor Labour.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2023 8:07:17 GMT
In reality, if we consider the referendum results and the SNP's total assimilation of Scotland, there are more SNP voters than independence voters. Basically, people voted SNP for other reasons, and they will more than likely vote Scottish Labour than vote for the now disgraced SNP. As for polls... they're usually wrong, as seen by the results of the only polls that matter.
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 24, 2023 8:21:53 GMT
Makes you laugh how exploding head Starmer goes all quiet when the shit hits the fan, only the other day he was being interviewed about Raab, and he was telling us how slow the Prime Minister was at getting rid of Raab, and here we have Abbott who Starmer should have dealt with a long time ago, she's been a loose cannon for years, Starmer has always been afraid of Abbott because she's a trouble maker, and she wont go without a fight.
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