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Post by dodgydave on Apr 24, 2023 0:33:03 GMT
Proof if ever proof were needed, that the days of people like Corbyn, Abbott and their supporters running the Labour Party are well and truly over. Abbott has shown her true colours as a "not too bright" person for suggesting that both Roma and Jews were not races of people. The Left Wing Nutters, most of whom have now departed the Labour Party were fuelled on politics of division, hatred, envy and intollerance. I am totally convinced that this will be good for the Labour Party, it will show the people of this country that Labour is determined to deal with such people, and that their influence has all but disappeared. If Abbott knows there is no way back for her, take it from me she'll be bringing others down with her, Nandy & Rayner are both still Corbynista, let's just see if Abbott drags them down with her. Nah, Nandy and Rayner are Social Democrats. Abbott is a Democratic Socialist (like Corbyn). She lives in the Socialist Campaign Group with the other nutters >>> Socialist_Campaign_GroupAbbott is right in a way, the Socialists antisemitism is not racially motivated, they hate the Jews because they are a symbol of Capitalism  Laughably, some of you think Starmer wants rids of Social Democrats because they are way too left. Have you not studied his roots? Starmer was way over to the left, but then he became a populist who just wants to be World King (like somebody else we know). Starmer wants rid of Corbyn and Abbott because he knows that should Labour win, they will oust him because he is useless and doesn't actually stand for anything. |
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Apr 24, 2023 2:47:44 GMT
Some time I came across a book, written by a Jewish author, that detailed how Jews maintained their numbers after their conflicts with the Romans. Non-Jewish servants who worked for them for 7 years would be accepted into the Jewish faith. This effectively, as the author said, reduced the Jewish "racial" element to the point where Jews of the Biblical type are only found in families who stayed in Palestine ... just a few thousand of them. Judaism was the faith of a "race" but then became a religion encompassing many other races. Genetic studies of Jews show that a surprising number of them have genes originating in Southern Italy and Bulgaria. What has been established is that the oldest genes in modern Jews link them to the Kurds ... a people who have always lived in the region where Abraham came from. In the 1950s a Jewish author living in Israel pointed out that the recently discovered Hurrian clay tablets (Hurrians lived where the Kurds now are) detailed laws and customs practically identical to those found in the Bible.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 24, 2023 5:22:39 GMT
As far as I can see she is only repeating what many in her party have been saying for years in that only black and other coloured people that suffer racism and everyone else suffers prejudice. It's a travesty that the likes of Diane Abbott, Lammy, Lenny Henry and many many more black people, do a disservice in the name f racism, because we'd be foolish not to be aware there are racist bigoted prejudice people out there, including colour, religion sexuality and so on.
We get it, and most decent civilized people would not tolerate it, but the likes of Abbott who screams racism if anyone dares to question her, yet on the next breath she ignores and thinks there is nothing wrong with being racist towards none 'black people' is not racism but being misunderstood, puts Labour in a untenable position. They can't be half in half out, they either decry racism regardless of colour, religion, sexuality, they can't cherry pick what they find offensive.
Starmer faces calls to expel Diane Abbott from Labour Party after ex-shadow home secretary was accused of 'spouting hateful anti-Semitism' www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12005619/Keir-Starmer-faces-calls-expel-Diane-Abbott-Labour-Party.html |
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Post by thomas on Apr 24, 2023 5:56:52 GMT
what disturbs me about your posts is the fact you seem to think its great abbot has had the whip removed and hope that starmer can gain out of it rather than showing any concern that a prominent labour mp could possibly be anti semitic.
I thought labour and its minions were all for standing up for the poor and oppressed and those facing prejudice?
You couldnt give a fuck about the jews or anyone else sid , never mind the uk. All you want to do is polish the turd that is keir starmer and new labour for the sake of labour taking power at all costs.
not only can you not stop yourself from been insulting and revert to using foul language, but you also assume a lot without any basis or evidence. Until today, no body had even the slightest notion or evidence that Abbott held such views about Jews, and I have absolutely no doubt what so ever, that had she indicated or espoused such views, she would have been suspended from the Labour Party. All I know is that Abbott represents the kind of Labour Party which is unelectable, she has other nutty, fringe views, and supports a Labour leader who led the party to a humiliating defeat - and this time she has gone too far and tripped up over herself. I am married to a foreign born woman who is not a Christian, I am the least likely person on this board to be racist in any way, shape or form. I utterly deplore anti semitism, just as I deplore ALL forms of racism. I would say that you assume far too much. Your party apologised for the anti semitism within it ranks , and paid out a six figure sum in light of that , and you waffle on about abbot as though anti semitism within labour is something new and unheard of? 
and yet starmer was happy in the shadow cabinet with her at one point , and saddo khan a good friend of hers as well. Her views only became nutty and fringe views when it suits.
As i said , your slack jawed vacant eyed defence of the party machine is laughable.
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Post by thomas on Apr 24, 2023 5:58:17 GMT
thomas - not only can you not stop yourself from been insulting and revert to using foul language, but you also assume a lot without any basis or evidence. Until today, no body had even the slightest notion or evidence that Abbott held such views about Jews, and I have absolutely no doubt what so ever, that had she indicated or espoused such views, she would have been suspended from the Labour Party. All I know is that Abbott represents the kind of Labour Party which is unelectable, she has other nutty, fringe views, and supports a Labour leader who led the party to a humiliating defeat - and this time she has gone too far and tripped up over herself. I am married to a foreign born woman who is not a Christian, I am the least likely person on this board to be racist in any way, shape or form. I utterly deplore anti semitism, just as I deplore ALL forms of racism. I would say that you assume far too much. As far as I can see she is only repeating what many in her party have been saying for years in that only black and other coloured people that suffer racism and everyone else suffers prejudice. Exactly sandy. Privileged racism its called , where only the select few can suffer it and the other untermenschen are discounted. |
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Post by thomas on Apr 24, 2023 5:59:59 GMT
We shouldn’t celebrate this imo. Abbott should of been able to say this without being cancelled. The lefty woke taboo spectrum is getting thinner and less tolerant . Thats what i sort of said up the thread benny. Labour though have taken us all down this cul de sac , and now dont like it when they live by the sword , they then die by that same sword. |
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Post by sheepy on Apr 24, 2023 6:24:27 GMT
We shouldn’t celebrate this imo. Abbott should of been able to say this without being cancelled. The lefty woke taboo spectrum is getting thinner and less tolerant . Thats what i sort of said up the thread benny. Labour though have taken us all down this cul de sac , and now dont like it when they live by the sword , they then die by that same sword. Plus she was having a dig at the yanks that will infuriate them. Bad for the global image. They are already coasting the edge of civil war. |
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Post by thomas on Apr 24, 2023 6:44:55 GMT
Thats what i sort of said up the thread benny. Labour though have taken us all down this cul de sac , and now dont like it when they live by the sword , they then die by that same sword. Plus she was having a dig at the yanks that will infuriate them. Bad for the global image. They are already coasting the edge of civil war. she is just a silly woman sheepwash. I genuinly dont think either her or corbyn are anti semitic , more foolish than anything , but without a doubt there is definetly an undecurrent of anti semitism in that party. As well as the line of thought that only certain folk are priviliged enough to be prejudiced by racism.
i see owen jones is out bumping his gums on twitter calling diane abbot out for being wrong but with the obligatory ....."but but but" at the end. These twitterati and labour party chattering classes get right up my fucking beak.
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Post by sheepy on Apr 24, 2023 6:49:18 GMT
Plus she was having a dig at the yanks that will infuriate them. Bad for the global image. They are already coasting the edge of civil war. she is just a silly woman sheepwash. I genuinly dont think either her or corbyn are anti semitic , more foolish than anything , but without a doubt there is definetly an undecurrent of anti semitism in that party. As well as the line of thought that only certain folk are priviliged enough to be prejudiced by racism.
i see owen jones is out bumping his gums on twitter calling diane abbot out for being wrong but with the obligatory ....."but but but" at the end. These twitterati and labour party chattering classes get right up my fucking beak.
I still reckon they are hilarious, the best comedy is always based on truth. The best bit is they don't have a clue they are comedians. They think they are serious political contenders. I bet Sir Starmer is having kittens. |
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Post by thomas on Apr 24, 2023 6:55:01 GMT
she is just a silly woman sheepwash. I genuinly dont think either her or corbyn are anti semitic , more foolish than anything , but without a doubt there is definetly an undecurrent of anti semitism in that party. As well as the line of thought that only certain folk are priviliged enough to be prejudiced by racism.
i see owen jones is out bumping his gums on twitter calling diane abbot out for being wrong but with the obligatory ....."but but but" at the end. These twitterati and labour party chattering classes get right up my fucking beak.
I still reckon they are hilarious, the best comedy is always based on truth. The best bit is they don't have a clue they are comedians. They think they are serious political contenders. I bet Sir Starmer is having kittens. The hilarious part of it is that the establishment think keir starmer and labour are going to set the world aright and manage the uk decline in a comfortable fashion.
If that man gets into power , he will set the uk on fire left right and centre.
I see guy verhofstadt is also on twitter gushing with delight at the latest uk rejoin over 60 % , and with starmer set to potentially walk into number 10 in 18 months (unless we have anymore wee hiccups) the road is all being laid piece by piece to piss all over both scotland and england and the public opinions on various stuff.
Were you suitably cowed yesterday with the nuclear alarm on the mobile ? 
Next up jug ears coronation , then another bout of doom and gloom afterwards till you vote as the estblishment want and give up your popualism sheepwash.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2023 6:55:38 GMT
Is being Jewish a separate race.
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Post by thomas on Apr 24, 2023 7:05:03 GMT
Is being Jewish a separate race. prejudice is prejudice comrade.
You apologised for it and forked out six figures in sorrow for something you insinuate isnt racism.
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Post by sheepy on Apr 24, 2023 7:05:43 GMT
I still reckon they are hilarious, the best comedy is always based on truth. The best bit is they don't have a clue they are comedians. They think they are serious political contenders. I bet Sir Starmer is having kittens. The hilarious part of it is that the establishment think keir starmer and labour are going to set the world aright and manage the uk decline in a comfortable fashion.
If that man gets into power , he will set the uk on fire left right and centre.
I see guy verhofstadt is also on twitter gushing with delight at the latest uk rejoin over 60 % , and with starmer set to potentially walk into number 10 in 18 months (unless we have anymore wee hiccups) the road is all being laid piece by piece to piss all over both scotland and england and the public opinions on various stuff.
Were you suitably cowed yesterday with the nuclear alarm on the mobile ?
Next up jug ears coronation , then another bout of doom and gloom afterwards till you vote as the estblishment want and give up your popualism sheepwash.
In all honesty I couldn't give a flying fuck, their desperate antics are hilarious, they don't have any voters because they don't deserve any. It would serve them right if Vlad lost the plot and him and his oppos did set a few off. |
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Post by thomas on Apr 24, 2023 7:08:35 GMT
The hilarious part of it is that the establishment think keir starmer and labour are going to set the world aright and manage the uk decline in a comfortable fashion.
If that man gets into power , he will set the uk on fire left right and centre.
I see guy verhofstadt is also on twitter gushing with delight at the latest uk rejoin over 60 % , and with starmer set to potentially walk into number 10 in 18 months (unless we have anymore wee hiccups) the road is all being laid piece by piece to piss all over both scotland and england and the public opinions on various stuff.
Were you suitably cowed yesterday with the nuclear alarm on the mobile ?
Next up jug ears coronation , then another bout of doom and gloom afterwards till you vote as the estblishment want and give up your popualism sheepwash.
In all honesty I couldn't give a flying fuck, their desperate antics are hilarious, they don't have any voters because they don't deserve any. It would serve them right if Vlad lost the plot and him and his oppos did set a few off. hope not sheepwash. We can only hope globally common sense prevails.
As for the westmisnter party , you are spot on .Of course , fools still believe labour and starmer will save them . You only need to look at comrade sids posts.
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Post by thomas on Apr 24, 2023 7:12:12 GMT
Is being Jewish a separate race. tell me red , has the multi millionaire labour party whatsapp group worked out their angle on diane abbot yet?
Any comments from carol vorderman?
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