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Post by Handyman on Apr 11, 2023 11:48:01 GMT
If the Police did not attend who ever reported this would make a complaint against them, as they did attend they are still complained about, I believe the Landlady has replaced the Gollies etc , sheer lunacy
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Post by Steve on Apr 11, 2023 11:55:36 GMT
If the Police did not attend who ever reported this would make a complaint against them, as they did attend they are still complained about, I believe the Landlady has replaced the Gollies etc , sheer lunacy But surely they could only complain about police non attendance if there was evidence of a crime, there wasn't and obviously wasn't just from the nature of the original complaint. And they didn't just send one copper to take a look, they went in mob handed and confiscated. As I said, absurd.
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Post by Bentley on Apr 11, 2023 12:00:14 GMT
The police are not there to solve crimes and protect innocent people from criminals. They are there to keep a lid on the great unwashed . There we no bad and good people anymore . There are people who are problems and people who could become problems.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 11, 2023 12:05:16 GMT
Ta So she is still complaining they haven't been returned and to be clear the police have no right to seize them or continue to hold them. Also in your link 'Golly dolls have long been accepted as deeply offensive to Black communities. Images from the pub show some of the dolls being hung by their necks from the top of the bar.'It is very hard to believe the landlady did not know that so their actions were deliberate. Best of luck getting their licence renewed Have they? I am sure if they were offended they would speak up for themselves. I bet the sad arsehole who reported this non crime was a bloody left white woke.
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 11, 2023 12:06:34 GMT
Ta So she is still complaining they haven't been returned and to be clear the police have no right to seize them or continue to hold them. Also in your link 'Golly dolls have long been accepted as deeply offensive to Black communities. Images from the pub show some of the dolls being hung by their necks from the top of the bar.'It is very hard to believe the landlady did not know that so their actions were deliberate. Best of luck getting their licence renewed Who exactly is it that has deemed these teddies to be racist?
And why are they whinging there are 'no black dolls' and 'no black teddies', Barbie and Ken are white no black dolls.
I can guarantee you if toy manufactures started to make black dolls and teddies the eternally offended woke snowflakes would say they are racist dolls and teddies because they are the wrong black, or the wrong facial expressions, or the dolls with frizzy hair were racist, the lips were too thick,... FFS you know as we as I do they are just after creating divisions in society... and if you don't know that, then you are eternally thick.
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 11, 2023 12:08:48 GMT
Sad part is that kids both white and black would love these teddies, but unfortunately the woke snowflakes have spoken on their behalf, and told them they wont like them.
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Post by Bentley on Apr 11, 2023 12:09:25 GMT
Good point. Barbie and Ken are derogatory terms for white young posers. I don’t see outraged white people sending the fuzz into toy shops .
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Post by jonksy on Apr 11, 2023 12:10:58 GMT
Sad part is that kids both white and black would love these teddies, but unfortunately the woke snowflakes have spoken on their behalf, and told them they wont like them. Many of the older genration liked the black and white minstrels on the beeb mate until a few of the eternally offended pissed in the pot.
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 11, 2023 12:16:52 GMT
Sad part is that kids both white and black would love these teddies, but unfortunately the woke snowflakes have spoken on their behalf, and told them they wont like them. Many of the older genration liked the black and white minstrels on the beeb mate until a few of the eternally offended pissed in the pot. They are basically kill joys who hate to see people happy and in harmony, and certainly appear to have a grudge against white people and anything that white people enjoy, we are being trained and manipulated into liking and doing what we are told.
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Post by see2 on Apr 11, 2023 12:38:54 GMT
Many of the older genration liked the black and white minstrels on the beeb mate until a few of the eternally offended pissed in the pot. They are basically kill joys who hate to see people happy and in harmony, and certainly appear to have a grudge against white people and anything that white people enjoy, we are being trained and manipulated into liking and doing what we are told. You have an active brain and a good imagination, its just a pity that you choose to use them in such an inflicted way ^^^
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Post by sandypine on Apr 11, 2023 14:10:02 GMT
You are conferring a motive on someone with the only proof being your own belief. As regards race issues that is the usual way it works in that people are guilty of the crime of intent with no proof. The act, whatever act it may be, is proof enough for the easily offended. Are you really saying that couple haven't known that for decades those dolls are seen as offensive by many black people? I doubt it, so why would they choose to position a display they knew would offend any black people that came into their Public House? Well let us just run with that view for a moment. One of the British values we are constantly being reminded of is 'tolerance'. British people have had golliwog toys for their children for decades and was a much loved and much valued toy. It is/was a cultural icon of sorts yet those arriving here to make a better life cannot 'tolerate' the existence, ownership and visual display of such items. In fact they lack the very British value that draws them to Britain in the first place. The next consideration is well why should they tolerate that which offends them. That is the very nature of toleration that one lives with and accepts the existence and use of that which you find offensive. It is like Islam, I tolerate Islam, I find its rhetoric insulting and offensive and I am offended by the open declaration of those following it through dress, demeanour or action and I abhor the celebration of its special festivals. But I tolerate that because that is the specific British value I live by, and am expected to live by, despite the fact that I feel that much of the open display of the religion is not just to show a following but also to annoy those not of the religion and to specifically offend them in a public place. So if your view is that causing offence is unnecessary and wrong then that opens a whole can of worms where hypocrisy reigns.
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Post by om15 on Apr 11, 2023 14:30:19 GMT
I read that the Police originally actioned this as a "hate crime", this is a sort of catch all that can be imposed on white people who fail to bend to the woke/BLM/leftie agenda, out of interest can anyone point to an occasion where a black/asian/yellow person has been charged with this.
We see the new lunatic First Minister of Scotland loudly accusing people of being white, Diane Abbott telling all and sundry that England is all right except for white people and David Lammy stirring up faux race problems for a living on his radio show.
It all does appear to be rather one sided, I personally don't display golliwogs in my sitting room out of choice, but have no objection to others doing so if they wish.
I observed life under Islamic rule when living and working in Saudi Arabia, it didn't bother me unduly, but it did give me a lasting impression that my part of Wessex would not be enhanced by adopting Sharia Law or observing Ramadan and I see no reason why we should change our way of life to accommodate this, certainly not by putting our golliwogs in a cupboard anyway.
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Post by om15 on Apr 11, 2023 14:47:36 GMT
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Post by Steve on Apr 12, 2023 11:28:51 GMT
This is awkward for those that suppose the display was an innocent display of cuddly toys. Seems Mr Ryley is a Britain First (far right group led by criminals) supporter who likes to laugh about KKK lynchings of black people. 'She told The Guardian that he had been pictured in a Britain First t-shirt but did not back the far-right group. "I don't think Chris is a supporter of Britain First, he was just wearing that shirt because it was convenient at the time," she said.'
Mrs Riley you do tell them. www.lbc.co.uk/news/pub-landlady-golliwogs-britain-first/Police reaction was wrong but I bet the Ryleys don't have much of a future in the pub trade. Which beer companies will want to supply them? What licensing committee will ignore his antics?
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Post by wapentake on Apr 12, 2023 11:36:42 GMT
This is awkward for those that suppose the display was an innocent display of cuddly toys. Seems Mr Ryley is a Britain First (far right group led by criminals) supporter who likes to laugh about KKK lynchings of black people. 'She told The Guardian that he had been pictured in a Britain First t-shirt but did not back the far-right group. "I don't think Chris is a supporter of Britain First, he was just wearing that shirt because it was convenient at the time," she said.'
Mrs Riley you do tell them. www.lbc.co.uk/news/pub-landlady-golliwogs-britain-first/Police reaction was wrong but I bet the Ryleys don't have much of a future in the pub trade. Which beer companies will want to supply them? What licensing committee will ignore his antics? This puts a different slant on this whole story,if it is as you now report then I agree he hasn’t got long left in the pub trade.
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