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Post by oracle75 on Apr 16, 2023 10:22:19 GMT
I just posted a link this morning that explained it. Factual knowledge is not gained by ignoring it. Sorry, a dip in FDI doesn't prove the economy is harmed, neither does less migration from the EU prove that - what it has shown is that wages have gone up. You've been schooled on this previously. Read properly. The article discussed NON EU miigration I just pointed that out to Pac ten minutes ago. A dip in foreign direct investmant doesnt indicate a harming of the receiving economy?? Earth to alien, in what universe is this true? |
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 16, 2023 10:23:28 GMT
IMAGINE - PIcking 100 tons of Green Apples to sell to a country which has an apetite for Red Apples, and then imagine loading those Apples into bales of 1 ton to send to a country with forklift trucks which handle bales of half a ton. Then, imagine sending those bales of apples on open backed lorries to a country which has regulations which say fruit MUST be transported in refrigerated lorries. Then, imagine if those same Apples are washed in a solution containing a waxing agent, when the Importing nations regulations state "No Artificial Ingredients". This is exactly what the UK is doing - we are diverging rules and regulations from the SAME rules as our biggest export market to "British" rules, and its so ridiculous that no one can defend how utterly stupid it is. Idiots like Jacob Reece Mogg are tranfixed on ultra British sovereignty, even down to the fucking colour of a passport, people like him, and those that support him are mad, they would risk the economy and jobs for a pointless, meaningless exercise in stamping British authority over everything like a spoilt child. But let them carry on with their fanatical nonsense, I am close to retirement, I have no mortgage and pay no rent, but its a shame that these Nutters are harming our country for the younger generation. View AttachmentView Attachment I think your imagination has run wild on you old bean. |
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 16, 2023 10:24:33 GMT
Sorry, a dip in FDI doesn't prove the economy is harmed, neither does less migration from the EU prove that - what it has shown is that wages have gone up. You've been schooled on this previously. Read properly. The article discussed NON EU miigration I just pointed that out to Pac ten minutes ago. A dip in foreign direct investmant doesnt indicate a harming of the receiving economy?? Earth to alien, in what universe is this true? A dip is not a trend. A bit like your fellow countrymen burning up the streets of France. |
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Post by oracle75 on Apr 16, 2023 10:24:41 GMT
Low GDP growth equals a weakening economy. Read the article properly. Low GDP growth hasn't recovered since the FC in 2008/09. Read the stats properly before making up BS. It kept pace with all other equitable countries. Until 2016. |
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Post by oracle75 on Apr 16, 2023 10:26:33 GMT
Read properly. The article discussed NON EU miigration I just pointed that out to Pac ten minutes ago. A dip in foreign direct investmant doesnt indicate a harming of the receiving economy?? Earth to alien, in what universe is this true? A dip is not a trend. A bit like you fellow countrymen burning up the streets of France. The dip has turned into a flatline. |
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 16, 2023 10:27:56 GMT
Low GDP growth hasn't recovered since the FC in 2008/09. Read the stats properly before making up BS. It kept pace with all other equitable countries. Until 2016. That was because of the uncertainty surrounding Brexit. Not because of the lasting effect of Brexit. |
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 16, 2023 10:30:30 GMT
A dip is not a trend. A bit like you fellow countrymen burning up the streets of France. The dip has turned into a flatline. You're talking rubbish again. Your graph conveniently ends in 2017. Selected dates from Europhiles is what we've come to expect. This is not a flatline.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2023 10:31:01 GMT
buccaneer >> I think your imagination has run wild on you old bean.
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If EU regulations state that for example Prawns and Shellfish must be labelled a certain way, transported a certain way at temperatures they say - then the UK has to stick to those EU regulations.
Without exports to Europe, the UK shellfish industry would colapse
If EU regulations state how Lamb must be packaged, labeled, how it should be transported, and at what temperatures, then we in the UK will stick to those regulations.
The UK Lamb industry is heavily reliant on exports to the EU
Like I stated - this nonsense about doing away with EU regulations is the stuff of extremists like Reece Mogg, a man who is very comfortably off, and has absolutely no idea about earning a proper living.
Its all nonsense
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 16, 2023 10:33:56 GMT
Factually wrong: In the early 2000s, Britain was attracting and retaining a steady flow of foreign-born migrants. But after 2018, EU immigration tailed off, and the number of EU-born residents leaving the UK each year has outnumbered new arrivals (figure 3). There has not been a compensatory increase in non-EU immigration, which has reduced the size and diversity of the UK labor pool and could have implications for fiscal sustainability.Last year the UK hit a new record for net immigration of over 500,000 Please read properly. The quoted text refers to NON EU immigration. Of course non-EU immigration has increased to more than offset the reduction in EU immigration - how do you think we got a record number of arrivals? |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 16, 2023 10:40:43 GMT
buccaneer >> I think your imagination has run wild on you old bean. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If EU regulations state that for example Prawns and Shellfish must be labelled a certain way, transported a certain way at temperatures they say - then the UK has to stick to those EU regulations. Without exports to Europe, the UK shellfish industry would colapse If EU regulations state how Lamb must be packaged, labeled, how it should be transported, and at what temperatures, then we in the UK will stick to those regulations. The UK Lamb industry is heavily reliant on exports to the EU Like I stated - this nonsense about doing away with EU regulations is the stuff of extremists like Reece Mogg, a man who is very comfortably off, and has absolutely no idea about earning a proper living. Its all nonsense Nah - thats more twaddle UK exporters have to comply with the regulations in the destination country no matter where it is. So if we ship cars to the US all those cars comply with US Law - that doesnt mean that the UK internal economy needs to comply with US Law. So if you export Prawns to the EU then you comply with the rules in the EU - we dont have to have the same rules for Prawns in the UK. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2023 11:08:24 GMT
In the 1980s there were still UK Abattoirs which operated at normal environmental temperatures, in other words on a red hot summers day, slaughtering and processing areas were frequently operating at temperatures of 20 degrees or more.
The EU made those abattoirs illegal, and they were either phased out over time, or they stopped operating, and it was the right thing to do, a sensible directive.
This been one example of EU regulations - and as the EU is, and will remain our biggest trading partner, how is it either sensible or justifiable to have different regulations to EU regulations. ?
Bearing in mind that it is ALWAYS going to be the economic super powers who dictate terms, and NOT the UK, and taking into consideration that two of the worlds economic giants ( the EU and the USA ) are involved in a comprehensive trade agreement, which will include harmonisation, how is it logical or even sane that the UK has different regulations. ?
The idea that we produce and make things differently for different markets is science fiction
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Post by oracle75 on Apr 16, 2023 12:34:44 GMT
The dip has turned into a flatline. You're talking rubbish again. Your graph conveniently ends in 2017. Selected dates from Europhiles is what we've come to expect. This is not a flatline. Look again. It ends in Q3 2022. Look. I enteted the discussion about scrapping EU laws and it didnt take long for those defending Brexit at all costs to completely change the subject, rinse and repeat a 6 year old discussion. I am bored and fed up. I am out. |
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 16, 2023 12:55:38 GMT
In the 1980s there were still UK Abattoirs which operated at normal environmental temperatures, in other words on a red hot summers day, slaughtering and processing areas were frequently operating at temperatures of 20 degrees or more. The EU made those abattoirs illegal, and they were either phased out over time, or they stopped operating, and it was the right thing to do, a sensible directive. This been one example of EU regulations - and as the EU is, and will remain our biggest trading partner, how is it either sensible or justifiable to have different regulations to EU regulations. ? Bearing in mind that it is ALWAYS going to be the economic super powers who dictate terms, and NOT the UK, and taking into consideration that two of the worlds economic giants ( the EU and the USA ) are involved in a comprehensive trade agreement, which will include harmonisation, how is it logical or even sane that the UK has different regulations. ? The idea that we produce and make things differently for different markets is science fiction Alice Through the Looking Glass. |
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Post by zanygame on Apr 16, 2023 13:20:38 GMT
Thanks Steve. I just knew it was going to be another triicksy set of graphs from a bias source. Yet, you and your ilk have no hard evidence that Brexit has wrecked the economy. Please, put up or shut up. And you and your lot know there can never be "hard evidence" be it Brexit or Climate change. You rely entirely on expecting others to prove you wrong instead of you proving you are right. Just so long as you can find a couple of bloggers or a fake site you can claim other experts disagree and its all unproven. Any real evidence given that you can't bypass is then listed as brain washing for the gullible. Or a conspiracy. Well I say its you who have been brain washed, my evidence? That even when a site you trust has been found cheating on the figures you can't bring yourself to question them. Sheeple, I believe is the term. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 16, 2023 13:29:57 GMT
Two indisputable facts
1 The UK is no longer a member of the EU
2 Ex remainers have not stopped whining about it.
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