|
|
Post by Bentley on Feb 26, 2023 18:06:46 GMT
Seems a bit half hearted to me. Maybe they should of praised Ms Coffey for suggesting that we eat home grown veg when seasons demand . Do you have evidence that any true environmentalists criticized her comment? I have never claimed such a thing . I certainly have no evidence that any ‘ true environmentalists’ have praised or commended her comment either. |
|
|
|
Post by Montegriffo on Feb 26, 2023 18:09:35 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Bentley on Feb 26, 2023 18:10:48 GMT
It doesn’t seem to be your friend . No praise for Ms Coffey from ‘ true environmentalists’ to be seen . |
|
|
|
Post by ratcliff on Feb 26, 2023 18:15:31 GMT
I have to admit, I do have a sweet tooth... You can make a passable ''tinned'' tomato soup with a simple roux, tomato puree, salt, sugar and a dash of cream. You can barely taste the tomatoes. I prefer the real thing though made with tomatoes and a bit of fresh basil. My dad had dementia and would sometimes not want to do x or y ,but could be bribed to do so with an offer of Heinz Cream of tomato soup . Had to be Heinz , he still knew the difference Me? I think all tomatoes are  |
|
|
|
Post by zanygame on Feb 26, 2023 18:18:38 GMT
No they don't. If one country cut your food supply you simply switch to another. And no country buys all its food from one source So there is no issue with (say) leaving the Eu that might / should effect food supply? Yes it effects food supply and makes it harder and our choices smaller, but it does give anyone control over us. If you leave Tesco it limits your food supply and you might have to go to Waitrose for some items, which costs you more. But none of that gives Tesco a hold over you. |
|
|
|
Post by Montegriffo on Feb 26, 2023 18:29:09 GMT
It doesn’t seem to be your friend . No praise for Ms Coffey from ‘ true environmentalists’ to be seen . That's a very narrow and specific example of environmentalists preferring to consume local, seasonal foods. The 1.24 billion search results from Google not good enough? |
|
|
|
Post by Bentley on Feb 26, 2023 18:32:09 GMT
It doesn’t seem to be your friend . No praise for Ms Coffey from ‘ true environmentalists’ to be seen . That's a very narrow and specific example of environmentalists preferring to consume local, seasonal foods. The 1.24 billion search results from Google not good enough? No . I never said otherwise . Now get your friend to find a ‘ true environmentalist praise Ms coffeys comment . Even a “ well she does have a point ‘ type of comment will do |
|
|
|
Post by Montegriffo on Feb 26, 2023 18:39:46 GMT
That's a very narrow and specific example of environmentalists preferring to consume local, seasonal foods. The 1.24 billion search results from Google not good enough? No . I never said otherwise . Now get your friend to find a ‘ true environmentalist praise Ms coffeys comment . Even a “ well she does have a point ‘ type of comment will do Why? I've provided ample proof that environmentalists support the consumption of local, seasonal foods. Your no true Scotsman fallacy isn't working I'm afraid. It is possible to be an environmentalist who supports the consumption of local, seasonal foods without praising some government minister with a lousy record on the environment. |
|
|
|
Post by Bentley on Feb 26, 2023 18:46:13 GMT
No . I never said otherwise . Now get your friend to find a ‘ true environmentalist praise Ms coffeys comment . Even a “ well she does have a point ‘ type of comment will do Why? I've provided ample proof that environmentalists support the consumption of local, seasonal foods. Your no true Scotsman fallacy isn't working I'm afraid. It is possible to be an environmentalist who supports the consumption of local, seasonal foods without praising some government minister with a lousy record on the environment. It was you that posted ‘ true environmentalists’ so it’s your no true Scotsman fallacy . It seems that you cannot find any praise for MS Coffeys suggestion to eat home grown turnips instead of tomato’s from far away . |
|
|
|
Post by jonksy on Feb 26, 2023 18:47:58 GMT
I have to admit, I do have a sweet tooth... You can make a passable ''tinned'' tomato soup with a simple roux, tomato puree, salt, sugar and a dash of cream. You can barely taste the tomatoes. I prefer the real thing though made with tomatoes and a bit of fresh basil. Thankyou I will try that.. |
|
|
|
Post by jonksy on Feb 26, 2023 18:50:11 GMT
You can make a passable ''tinned'' tomato soup with a simple roux, tomato puree, salt, sugar and a dash of cream. You can barely taste the tomatoes. I prefer the real thing though made with tomatoes and a bit of fresh basil. My dad had dementia and would sometimes not want to do x or y ,but could be bribed to do so with an offer of Heinz Cream of tomato soup . Had to be Heinz , he still knew the difference Me? I think all tomatoes are Mt dad would only drink PG tips and if I got another brand he would just tip his cuppu down the sink.. |
|
|
|
Post by sheepy on Feb 26, 2023 19:02:30 GMT
Actually cream of parsnip soup is also very tasty.
|
|
|
|
Post by Orac on Feb 26, 2023 19:03:12 GMT
]Yes it effects food supply and makes it harder and our choices smaller, but it does give anyone control over us. My previous point was that our inability to feed ourselves makes us vulnerable to external manipulation. You countered that by saying that this manipulation wouldn't work or is trivial because we could always go to another nation to buy food. However, you also say that it is vitally important we comply with the Eu's conditions in order to secure our food supplyYou have a contradiction. I think you need to take a step back and accept notion that not being able to feed our own population does make us vulnerable to manipulation. If you leave Tesco it limits your food supply and you might have to go to Waitrose for some items, which costs you more. But none of that gives Tesco a hold over you. The analogy isn't good because shops typically only have one dimension of trade - price. A shop wont ask you to make your house available to their refugees before they will trade with you - this would probably be illegal |
|
|
|
Post by Montegriffo on Feb 26, 2023 19:05:30 GMT
Why? I've provided ample proof that environmentalists support the consumption of local, seasonal foods. Your no true Scotsman fallacy isn't working I'm afraid. It is possible to be an environmentalist who supports the consumption of local, seasonal foods without praising some government minister with a lousy record on the environment. It was you that posted ‘ true environmentalists’ so it’s your no true Scotsman fallacy . It seems that you cannot find any praise for MS Coffeys suggestion to eat home grown turnips instead of tomato’s from far away . You are the one who thinks someone must praise Coffey in order to be a supporter of eating local, seasonal food. They don't and that is a No True Scotsman fallacy. |
|
|
|
Post by Montegriffo on Feb 26, 2023 19:07:26 GMT
Actually cream of parsnip soup is also very tasty. Leek and potato are also winter vegetables that make great soup. Not sure I'd want to eat turnip soup though. |
|
