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Post by zanygame on Feb 26, 2023 17:28:25 GMT
We stopped being able to feed ourselves in the fifties when our population reached 50 million. It is now 70 million, so no we cannot feed ourselves. But then we have no need to, we are part of a planet in which there are many countries with plenty enough agricultural land to supply us. The mistake is to try and block out the rest of the world. I don't recall anyone suggest we block out the worldHowever, if you rely on the outside to feed yourself, you are clearly vulnerable to manipulation No they don't. If one country cut your food supply you simply switch to another. And no country buys all its food from one source
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Post by Orac on Feb 26, 2023 17:32:37 GMT
I don't recall anyone suggest we block out the worldHowever, if you rely on the outside to feed yourself, you are clearly vulnerable to manipulation No they don't. If one country cut your food supply you simply switch to another. And no country buys all its food from one source So there is no issue with (say) leaving the Eu that might / should effect food supply?
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Post by sheepy on Feb 26, 2023 17:35:47 GMT
No they don't. If one country cut your food supply you simply switch to another. And no country buys all its food from one source So there is no issue with (say) leaving the Eu that might / should effect food supply? LOL brilliant.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 26, 2023 17:36:52 GMT
So nothing to do with the revengefull antics of the EUSSR then along with them putting their faith in acquiring energy from Russia? We managed to feed ourselves long before we were conned into joining the EUSSR. Maybe you would like say who it was that made us plow up the hedgerows of our small fields to turn them into acres of nothing more than frigging rape seed? Or potatoe fields etc where the EUSSR paid them to plow their produce back into the ground? We stopped being able to feed ourselves in the fifties when our population reached 50 million. It is now 70 million, so no we cannot feed ourselves. But then we have no need to, we are part of a planet in which there are many countries with plenty enough agricultural land to supply us. The mistake is to try and block out the rest of the world. And whoes fault is that? We never ever voted for mass immigration and neither did any other poor individual in the EUSSR.
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Post by Toreador on Feb 26, 2023 17:43:00 GMT
So nothing to do with the revengefull antics of the EUSSR then along with them putting their faith in acquiring energy from Russia? We managed to feed ourselves long before we were conned into joining the EUSSR. Maybe you would like say who it was that made us plow up the hedgerows of our small fields to turn them into acres of nothing more than frigging rape seed? Or potatoe fields etc where the EUSSR paid them to plow their produce back into the ground? We stopped being able to feed ourselves in the fifties when our population reached 50 million. It is now 70 million, so no we cannot feed ourselves. But then we have no need to, we are part of a planet in which there are many countries with plenty enough agricultural land to supply us. The mistake is to try and block out the rest of the world. Wrong! The post WW2 population was close to 48 million. The reason food production wasn't able to cope in the 1950s was in part due to the Attlee government failing to invest in farming and a massive shortfall due to a corrupt goverrnment taking over some 3,000 acres of prime agricultural land on which to build Heathrow. Heathrow was a massive area of market gardens.
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Post by Montegriffo on Feb 26, 2023 17:49:41 GMT
No they tend to get their produce locally, but that is nowhere near enough for the towns and cities. They get their fruit and veg from large farms across the EU. And when those crops were reduced we were first on the list to not get any. In that case I’m surprised that the eco worriers are not supporting Thérèse Coffey’s idea of us eating locally produced turnips instead of veg from the EU. Who says they aren't? Have you never heard an environmentalist talk about food miles?
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Post by Montegriffo on Feb 26, 2023 17:51:08 GMT
I intensely dislike tomatoes in all forms , I'd prefer a grilled turnip (or parsnip) any day Ditto but I do like cream of tomato soup tho....Not sure how that came about. Probably because it's mostly sugar.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 26, 2023 17:55:18 GMT
In that case I’m surprised that the eco worriers are not supporting Thérèse Coffey’s idea of us eating locally produced turnips instead of veg from the EU. Who says they aren't? Have you never heard an environmentalist talk about food miles? If you can find a turnips not Spanish tomatoes campaign then I’d like to see it. They dint seem to be as keen for us all to make do with turnips in Winter as they are to deny other people petrol driven cars
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Post by jonksy on Feb 26, 2023 17:57:36 GMT
Ditto but I do like cream of tomato soup tho....Not sure how that came about. Probably because it's mostly sugar. I have to admit, I do have a sweet tooth...
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Post by Montegriffo on Feb 26, 2023 17:58:34 GMT
Who says they aren't? Have you never heard an environmentalist talk about food miles? If you can find a turnips not Spanish tomatoes campaign then I’d like to see it. They dint seem to be as keen for us all to make do with turnips in Winter as they are to deny other people petrol driven cars Plenty of ''buy local'' campaigns out there.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 26, 2023 18:01:23 GMT
If you can find a turnips not Spanish tomatoes campaign then I’d like to see it. They dint seem to be as keen for us all to make do with turnips in Winter as they are to deny other people petrol driven cars Plenty of ''buy local'' campaigns out there. Seems a bit half hearted to me. Maybe they should of praised Ms Coffey for suggesting that we eat home grown veg when seasons demand .
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Post by Montegriffo on Feb 26, 2023 18:01:56 GMT
Probably because it's mostly sugar. I have to admit, I do have a sweet tooth... You can make a passable ''tinned'' tomato soup with a simple roux, tomato puree, salt, sugar and a dash of cream. You can barely taste the tomatoes. I prefer the real thing though made with tomatoes and a bit of fresh basil.
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Post by Montegriffo on Feb 26, 2023 18:03:39 GMT
Plenty of ''buy local'' campaigns out there. Seems a bit half hearted to me. Maybe they should of praised Ms Coffey for suggesting that we eat home grown veg when seasons demand . Do you have evidence that any true environmentalists criticized her comment?
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 26, 2023 18:04:26 GMT
Brexit makes no difference to the fact that the UK import more of their tomatoes than other countries - rejoining the EU will not increase domestic tomato production no matter how much Remainers may dream otherwise. But it does make a difference to where EU countries would prefer to deliver and when there's a shortage that matters. If other EU countries are a: willing to pay more and b: restricting exports - how would EU membership improve supplies to the UK?
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Post by wapentake on Feb 26, 2023 18:05:02 GMT
Just been watching the news and laughably Therese Coffey in the commons saying we should be eating seasonal veg now such as a turnip. Yes Therese that’s what I’ve always fancied sod tomato you can’t beat a grilled turnip with your full english. 😁 I intensely dislike tomatoes in all forms , I'd prefer a grilled turnip (or parsnip) any day
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