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Post by Handyman on Feb 24, 2023 13:03:39 GMT
I have not said the UK is guilty or assumed it and that is the point, no court of law has established the facts. The UK is guilty of stripping her of her right, as a British born person, of identity, and that is fact. Well what does taking responsibility mean other than being responsible. She had British Citizenship, she also had Bangladeshi citizenship should she seek to take it. Her British Citizenship was stripped not for what she did before she was an adult but for her actions after and the risk she poses to British Society. Her 'identity' in a multicultural society is very much open to question. Her identity as a British Citizen is very much at odds with what most British Citizens think it should be. Sometimes decisions made when youthful change your life and here we have such a decision. If I recall correctly if she had applied for Pakistani Citizenship the Pakistani Government said she would not have been granted it, even if she had successfully done so she would have been barred from entering the UK and many other countries because of her joining ISIS a proscribed Terrorist Group, very few countries would have allowed her to enter at all
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Post by Toreador on Feb 24, 2023 15:39:38 GMT
I knew someone wouldn't get it, I should have known it would be you. How do you know she did? Is this 20 questions?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2023 4:15:52 GMT
I haven't stated she is not guilty, I am sure she is and that she should be brought 'home' to get the facts. Even if it stops some other stupid person from ending up in the same situation. It's people like you that seem to believe that the law should apply unequally to certain sections of society that is the problem. Your the one defending the slag....She serves as a good deterent to those who are mad enough to fall for the indoctrination and now know what the consequences are. How is removing her a British persons citizenship a good deterrent to others, they know no borders or laws other than their own. A better deterrent would be to bring her back charge her and punish her if found guilty. Summary 'executions' are not British.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2023 4:18:35 GMT
But, of course, you know she is guilty. I wonder why we even need courts if we have people like you. You are either very naïve and not living in the real world, or the worst wind up merchant that has no idea how to debate in a mature manner, not that I really give a rat's arse about either way Forget the her appeals made to have her British Citizenship restored and was issued with a British Passport meaning she could travel back lawfully to the UK, what Offences do you think she could or should be charged with and put before a Criminal Court of Law You are saying that she has committed no offences by that statement. Guilty by public opinion is not justice, it's the way terrorists do it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2023 4:20:28 GMT
But, of course, you know she is guilty. I wonder why we even need courts if we have people like you. And another one. Do all lefties post a stream of non points or just you You lied on another thread and now you post a stream of non points . You are the one that likes to lie. You do not know she is guilty and again you try to wriggle your way out by accusing others.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2023 4:24:22 GMT
Of course, you know he isn't.🤣 An Asian that hates Asians? Of course I don't know that he doesn't. But I'd say it's highly unlikely. Not all wars are international. Asians murder Asians just as Europeans murder Europeans.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2023 4:24:58 GMT
She has never said she wasn't. Rape comes in many forms just ask Weinstein. As far as I know Weinstein wasn’t there . Yet another non point . Doorhandle Cranium.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2023 4:26:04 GMT
You are either very naïve and not living in the real world, or the worst wind up merchant that has no idea how to debate in a mature manner, not that I really give a rat's arse about either way Forget the her appeals made to have her British Citizenship restored and was issued with a British Passport meaning she could travel back lawfully to the UK, what Offences do you think she could or should be charged with and put before a Criminal Court of Law What a pity that the UK have stopped hanging traitors.....Yet again the karens got their way... A traitor is only deemed a traitor after a trial and conviction.😔
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2023 4:30:21 GMT
You are either very naïve and not living in the real world, or the worst wind up merchant that has no idea how to debate in a mature manner, not that I really give a rat's arse about either way Forget the her appeals made to have her British Citizenship restored and was issued with a British Passport meaning she could travel back lawfully to the UK, what Offences do you think she could or should be charged with and put before a Criminal Court of Law If the tabloid accounts (as believed by so many) are true then: Preparation of Terrorist Acts Collecting Information useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism Membership of a Proscribed Organisation Supporting a Proscribed Organisation Possession of an Article for Terrorist Purposes Encouragement of Terrorism Providing or Receiving Instruction or train for Terrorist purposes Attendance at a place for Terrorist Training and of course murder If, but shouldn't that be tested in a court of law, anything else is just hearsay and rumour. If all people 'suspected' of a crime are deemed guilty because they are suspects we are all in danger of prosecution. Thin end of the wedge.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2023 4:32:33 GMT
I'm afraid people who do not know the law should not be commenting on it. We know she was not Raped , because she was only 15 years of age when she arrived in Syria, within three week she married an ISIS Fighter and was made pregnant three times and produced three children all of which passed away, the Laws of consensual sex in Muslim Countries is often lower than here girls married off at a very early age often 10 or 12 years of age Here in England and Wales no child male or female under the age of 16 years can legally consent to sexual intercourse or any form of sexually activity with another even of their own age, suggest you should do as as you tell others and brush up on the Law We so not know she was not raped. Do you not understand the reproductive system either. What proof do you have, none.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2023 4:36:07 GMT
I have not said the UK is guilty or assumed it and that is the point, no court of law has established the facts. The UK is guilty of stripping her of her right, as a British born person, of identity, and that is fact. Well what does taking responsibility mean other than being responsible. She had British Citizenship, she also had Bangladeshi citizenship should she seek to take it. Her British Citizenship was stripped not for what she did before she was an adult but for her actions after and the risk she poses to British Society. Her 'identity' in a multicultural society is very much open to question. Her identity as a British Citizen is very much at odds with what most British Citizens think it should be. Sometimes decisions made when youthful change your life and here we have such a decision. Jimmy Saville. She was born, educated and registered in Britain, she is British.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 25, 2023 7:11:50 GMT
Your the one defending the slag....She serves as a good deterent to those who are mad enough to fall for the indoctrination and now know what the consequences are. How is removing her a British persons citizenship a good deterrent to others, they know no borders or laws other than their own. A better deterrent would be to bring her back charge her and punish her if found guilty. Summary 'executions' are not British. Well it seems to have rattled your cage...Just get over it she aint coming back to the UK..
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Post by jonksy on Feb 25, 2023 7:13:06 GMT
Well what does taking responsibility mean other than being responsible. She had British Citizenship, she also had Bangladeshi citizenship should she seek to take it. Her British Citizenship was stripped not for what she did before she was an adult but for her actions after and the risk she poses to British Society. Her 'identity' in a multicultural society is very much open to question. Her identity as a British Citizen is very much at odds with what most British Citizens think it should be. Sometimes decisions made when youthful change your life and here we have such a decision. Jimmy Saville. She was born, educated and registered in Britain, she is British. A British Traitor.
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Post by buccaneer on Feb 25, 2023 7:54:00 GMT
Influenced? Everyone is influenced. I thought you meant she might have been kidnapped. It is pretty evident she wasn't - ie she made the decision to go Grooming does not exist in your world then, people should be able to resist it. It didn't in Rochdale for many years because of people like you.
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Post by buccaneer on Feb 25, 2023 8:00:55 GMT
If the tabloid accounts (as believed by so many) are true then: Preparation of Terrorist Acts Collecting Information useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism Membership of a Proscribed Organisation Supporting a Proscribed Organisation Possession of an Article for Terrorist Purposes Encouragement of Terrorism Providing or Receiving Instruction or train for Terrorist purposes Attendance at a place for Terrorist Training and of course murder If, but shouldn't that be tested in a court of law, anything else is just hearsay and rumour. If all people 'suspected' of a crime are deemed guilty because they are suspects we are all in danger of prosecution. Thin end of the wedge. She's been stripped of her citizenship because she joined the most abhorrent terrorist group on the planet. She hasn't been convicted of anything. It really is that simple. The Home Office has the right to do this in certain circumstances as the judges have already upheld.
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