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Post by jonksy on Feb 8, 2023 21:13:31 GMT
As Penny Mourdant stated when she tore rayner apart that the Tories do not play that game. Why beggars belief Loved watching that , Rayner was well a truly taken to pieces , no ranting no shouting, no theatrics clinically executed I loved watching rayner wish the ground would open up Handy....Even her face mask was not enough to hide her embarrasement.....LOL......And improvement yes but not a shamed face cover..
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 21, 2023 9:24:50 GMT
Unfortunately, Dominic Raab has resigned. Left wing civil servants will be thrilled.
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Post by Bentley on Apr 21, 2023 9:30:35 GMT
Raab could have showed symptoms of depression . Depressed people can be intolerant and angry. Maybe he is the victim. Where’s caring lefties when you need them?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2023 7:38:35 GMT
Do you have to be a 'lefty' to call out a bully?
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Post by Vinny on Apr 22, 2023 9:56:27 GMT
I remember John Bercow, now he was a bully. An anti democratic, fascistic one who tried to block the democratic process from a national referendum.
If Raab has behaved in the same way, resignation was right.
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 22, 2023 15:04:37 GMT
I remember John Bercow, now he was a bully. An anti democratic, fascistic one who tried to block the democratic process from a national referendum. If Raab has behaved in the same way, resignation was right. Raab was nothing like Bercow. The only reason civil servants had it in for Raab is because he is a centre right Conservative. He is very pro Brexit and against illegals crossing the channel. Therefor he is a bully, obviously.
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Post by Vinny on Apr 22, 2023 15:18:11 GMT
I said if.
Not that he had.
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Post by andrewbrown on Apr 25, 2023 14:11:04 GMT
I remember John Bercow, now he was a bully. An anti democratic, fascistic one who tried to block the democratic process from a national referendum. If Raab has behaved in the same way, resignation was right. Raab was nothing like Bercow. The only reason civil servants had it in for Raab is because he is a centre right Conservative. He is very pro Brexit and against illegals crossing the channel. Therefor he is a bully, obviously. John Bercow was also right wing.
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Post by Vinny on Apr 25, 2023 15:23:54 GMT
Most Europhiles traditionally were. Margaret Thatcher. John Major. Kenneth Clarke. Michael Heseltine. Douglas Hurd. Geoffrey Howe.
Even Norman Tebbit was once a Europhile.
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 25, 2023 17:41:20 GMT
Raab was nothing like Bercow. The only reason civil servants had it in for Raab is because he is a centre right Conservative. He is very pro Brexit and against illegals crossing the channel. Therefor he is a bully, obviously. John Bercow was also right wing. Don't be daft. Bercow may have been in the Conservative party, for some unfathomable reason, but to say he was right wing is laughable. As speaker he was famous for being biased towards Labour, and after he stood down from being speaker he famously said he did not identify with the Conservative party and defected to Labour. Yet you reckon he's right wing!
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Post by Bentley on Apr 25, 2023 19:07:05 GMT
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 26, 2023 15:14:16 GMT
Most Europhiles traditionally were. Margaret Thatcher. John Major. Kenneth Clarke. Michael Heseltine. Douglas Hurd. Geoffrey Howe. Even Norman Tebbit was once a Europhile. Back in the 70s and 80s it was a different institution. It was more concerned about building a strong free market economy. Now it has turned socialist and woke. Remember back even before that it was an industrial collaboration.
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Post by Vinny on Apr 26, 2023 17:19:57 GMT
Woke maybe, but there is nothing socialistic about the EU at all, it is authoritarian, it is anti democratic, but it is not socialist. There's no EU welfare state, there's no EU health service, there's no EU nationalisation of services.
It's anarcho capitalistic but without voters having FUNCTIONAL democratic choice about what its policies are.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 27, 2023 0:28:28 GMT
Woke maybe, but there is nothing socialistic about the EU at all, it is authoritarian, it is anti democratic, but it is not socialist. There's no EU welfare state, there's no EU health service, there's no EU nationalisation of services. It's anarcho capitalistic but without voters having FUNCTIONAL democratic choice about what its policies are. Socialist is top down government. The government plan the economy, deciding how many of all the things we might want to buy in the form of quotas and so on. A capitalist economy is the opposite. It is decentralised and functions as a peer to peer network.
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Post by Vinny on Apr 27, 2023 12:44:33 GMT
Socialism, involves the collective ownership of the means of production. The EU does not.
Back in the 1940's, Labour nationalised everything they could, even road haulage. In the 1970's, Labour came up with the Aircraft and Shipbuilding Industries Act 1977.
The EU has done nothing like it, it set about breaking up monopolies and expanding the market, that, however necessary some of it has been, is capitalism, not socialism.
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