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Post by Vinny on Feb 7, 2023 11:53:59 GMT
Putin won't keep Crimea.
Ukraine want it back, and Crimean partisans have already been attacking the occupiers there.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 7, 2023 11:57:29 GMT
Putin won't keep Crimea. Ukraine want it back, and Crimean partisans have already been attacking the occupiers there. Russia has to keep Crimea. If it doesn’t then it would be severely weakened as a military power. Personally I think that’s the end game that everyone knows will happen but what happens in between is not known. |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 7, 2023 12:03:21 GMT
It's already severely weakened as a military power and no, it does not have to keep Crimea.
It has no right to keep Crimea, Crimea is part of a foreign country.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 7, 2023 12:20:15 GMT
It's already severely weakened as a military power and no, it does not have to keep Crimea. It has no right to keep Crimea, Crimea is part of a foreign country. That’s got nothing to with it. If Russia fails to keep Crimea then it might fail as a country. You don’t want a country full of nuclear weapons failing and you don’t want China waiting in the wings to pick up the pieces. Imo the West would rather have a weakened Russia than a broken Russia. |
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Post by oracle75 on Feb 8, 2023 8:04:45 GMT
If Ukraine were allowed to join NATO soon, there would be a third world war.
It is what frightens Putin the most, NATO expansion, and if NATO moves its border up the Russian territory, that would unleash the justification Putin would have to attack anywhere in NATO, and NATO would have to respond.
I have every confidence that Putin would be dusting off its nuclear stockpiles very soon.
Ukraine today is a buffer zone protected ONLY by international law...flimsy at best.Now is not the time to rearrange the balance that exists and which prevents the MAD we all depend on.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 8, 2023 9:27:07 GMT
If Ukraine were allowed to join NATO soon, there would be a third world war. It is what frightens Putin the most, NATO expansion, and if NATO moves its border up the Russian territory, that would unleash the justification Putin would have to attack anywhere in NATO, and NATO would have to respond. I have every confidence that Putin would be dusting off its nuclear stockpiles very soon. Ukraine today is a buffer zone protected ONLY by international law...flimsy at best.Now is not the time to rearrange the balance that exists and which prevents the MAD we all depend on. Indeed. If Russia is pushed out of Crimea then it would of been by a NATO ally ( not member ) with help from a great deal of NATO weapons . The only way Russia is going to lose Crimea is if it loses the will to fight . It won’t . It will respond with anything ( and possibly everything) that it has. |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 8, 2023 9:59:05 GMT
Russia already has failed as a country.
Russia will lose Crimea.
The territory is held by force of arms, not democratic will.
The Crimeans are Ukrainian and want to be liberated.
The Crimeans already attacked an occupier airbase last year and the illegal Kerch strait twin bridge has been blown up.
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Post by Vinny on Feb 8, 2023 11:59:02 GMT
Russia has no right to Ukraine, it is in violation of multiple treaties.
Putin is a murderer.
Every assistance must be given to ensure his total defeat.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 8, 2023 12:02:05 GMT
realpolitik trumps rights every time .
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