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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 25, 2023 23:17:47 GMT
This chap is a regular Youtube creator who has an interest in old pieces of electronic audio equipment circa 1980s. I suppose it has that quality of reminding you of things in the past when you were young and enjoying yourself. Not so if you were someone who bought British and stumbled upon the company Amstrad though. It gets more interesting as the chap starts to take it apart to see how it was designed and built. People often say on here, well Thatcher, she was evil and destroyed all of that Great British industry. The truth though is revealed with a screwdriver.
Now if we were to go back say similar products of the 1960s, they were built well.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 26, 2023 5:24:23 GMT
This chap is a regular Youtube creator who has an interest in old pieces of electronic audio equipment circa 1980s. I suppose it has that quality of reminding you of things in the past when you were young and enjoying yourself. Not so if you were someone who bought British and stumbled upon the company Amstrad though. It gets more interesting as the chap starts to take it apart to see how it was designed and built. People often say on here, well Thatcher, she was evil and destroyed all of that Great British industry. The truth though is revealed with a screwdriver.
Now if we were to go back say similar products of the 1960s, they were built well.
And not cherished........Even mecano is now owned by the frogs and produced in France and is a thriving business.......Liverpool was kown as the mecano city in it's day. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 26, 2023 13:03:53 GMT
This chap is a regular Youtube creator who has an interest in old pieces of electronic audio equipment circa 1980s. I suppose it has that quality of reminding you of things in the past when you were young and enjoying yourself. Not so if you were someone who bought British and stumbled upon the company Amstrad though. It gets more interesting as the chap starts to take it apart to see how it was designed and built. People often say on here, well Thatcher, she was evil and destroyed all of that Great British industry. The truth though is revealed with a screwdriver.
Now if we were to go back say similar products of the 1960s, they were built well.
And not cherished........Even mecano is now owned by the frogs and produced in France and is a thriving business.......Liverpool was kown as the mecano city in it's day. Did you see the ribbon tweeter inside the speaker box? There is pisstaking and then there is Alan Sugar. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 26, 2023 16:15:57 GMT
Here is another former British company. They started in 1898 by building bicycles, but soon went on to build motorcycles. By the 1950s they were one of the world's largest manufacturers and this page describes them as they thought of themselves at various times. It seemed to be that around the mid 60s it all started to go wrong and the response to this was to merge these once competitive firms into one large one and then to see the large one fail soon after. The 60s were a time when the empire fell to pieces. This firm once exported to 140 countries around the world. salterbros.com.au/villiers-wolverhampton/Notice how the management were so fastidious about quality. They had their own research and lab testing facilities to make sure the quality was second to none. It was this they believed would see them prevail. It was old school thinking with old school results. Amstrad though were the new school in Britain. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 26, 2023 16:33:12 GMT
The old Greeves motor bikes had Viliers engines in iirc and I saw one in a Bond mini car 3 wheeler .
Good little engines .
As for the Amstrad video. Yeah they were shit but as the chap said , no one knew any better. I had an Amstrad VHS video player . Far cheaper than anything else around.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 26, 2023 17:29:01 GMT
The old Greeves motor bikes had Viliers engines in iirc and I saw one in a Bond mini car 3 wheeler . Good little engines . As for the Amstrad video. Yeah they were shit but as the chap said , no one knew any better. I had an Amstrad VHS video player . Far cheaper than anything else around. Who can remember the C5...? Clive sinclair thought he would make a killing.....Hoover were very pleased as they suppied the motors for these little critters... |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 26, 2023 17:31:53 GMT
The old Greeves motor bikes had Viliers engines in iirc and I saw one in a Bond mini car 3 wheeler . Good little engines . As for the Amstrad video. Yeah they were shit but as the chap said , no one knew any better. I had an Amstrad VHS video player . Far cheaper than anything else around. Who can remember the C5...? Clive sinclair thought he would make a killing.....Hoover were very pleased as they suppied the motors for these little critters... Sinclair was a very very clever bloke. Why he thought that people would buy the C5 I don’t know. Hardly a Tesla. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 27, 2023 15:47:02 GMT
Who can remember the C5...? Clive sinclair thought he would make a killing.....Hoover were very pleased as they suppied the motors for these little critters... Sinclair was a very very clever bloke. Why he thought that people would buy the C5 I don’t know. Hardly a Tesla. Two issues with that were first the batteries were lead acid in those days so no good. Recall it was a Brit who invented the current lithium batteries. The second issue was the law. You are only allowed 200W of power. This stupid law is still in place. In China they have bicycle wheels with hub motors that deliver 3000W. With more power you could have built a stronger chassis and had an interesting mode of transport. There is a good aerodynamic advantage to being close to the ground and a low centre of gravity improves handling. With the right tech and laws it would not be a bad thing. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 27, 2023 15:58:46 GMT
Sinclair was a very very clever bloke. Why he thought that people would buy the C5 I don’t know. Hardly a Tesla. Two issues with that were first the batteries were lead acid in those days so no good. Recall it was a Brit who invented the current lithium batteries. The second issue was the law. You are only allowed 200W of power. This stupid law is still in place. In China they have bicycle wheels with hub motors that deliver 3000W. With more power you could have built a stronger chassis and had an interesting mode of transport. There is a good aerodynamic advantage to being close to the ground and a low centre of gravity improves handling. With the right tech and laws it would not be a bad thing. Nope. The issue was that they were like road going pedalos and as dangerous as taking a mobility scooter into traffic. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 27, 2023 16:12:40 GMT
Two issues with that were first the batteries were lead acid in those days so no good. Recall it was a Brit who invented the current lithium batteries. The second issue was the law. You are only allowed 200W of power. This stupid law is still in place. In China they have bicycle wheels with hub motors that deliver 3000W. With more power you could have built a stronger chassis and had an interesting mode of transport. There is a good aerodynamic advantage to being close to the ground and a low centre of gravity improves handling. With the right tech and laws it would not be a bad thing. Nope. The issue was that they were like road going pedalos and as dangerous as taking a mobility scooter into traffic. I know they were dangerous, but the two limitations mentioned meant they did not have sufficient power to keep up with the flow of traffic, and the law additionally limits them to 15MPH. Nearly every local road is 30 so they needed to do more than double the speed. I'm just saying the single seater low down aerodynamic form is a good one but tends to fail with Amstrad construction techniques. Lets say we use an alloy space frame and a carbon fibre body with a 5kW motor and was fully computerised with an colour touch screen and heating for the winter. Now we would be talking about a far better thing. Make it independent suspension as well for even better handling and increase the price point. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 27, 2023 16:32:57 GMT
Nope. The issue was that they were like road going pedalos and as dangerous as taking a mobility scooter into traffic. I know they were dangerous, but the two limitations mentioned meant they did not have sufficient power to keep up with the flow of traffic, and the law additionally limits them to 15MPH. Nearly every local road is 30 so they needed to do more than double the speed. I'm just saying the single seater low down aerodynamic form is a good one but tends to fail with Amstrad construction techniques. Lets say we use an alloy space frame and a carbon fibre body with a 5kW motor and was fully computerised with an colour touch screen and heating for the winter. Now we would be talking about a far better thing. Make it independent suspension as well for even better handling and increase the price point. Still missing the point. They were a death trap from the start. Claiming that a fast death trap is safer than a slow death trap is illogical and rather silly. |
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Post by besoeker3 on Jan 27, 2023 17:04:15 GMT
I know they were dangerous, but the two limitations mentioned meant they did not have sufficient power to keep up with the flow of traffic, and the law additionally limits them to 15MPH. Nearly every local road is 30 so they needed to do more than double the speed. I'm just saying the single seater low down aerodynamic form is a good one but tends to fail with Amstrad construction techniques. Lets say we use an alloy space frame and a carbon fibre body with a 5kW motor and was fully computerised with an colour touch screen and heating for the winter. Now we would be talking about a far better thing. Make it independent suspension as well for even better handling and increase the price point. Still missing the point. They were a death trap from the start. Claiming that a fast death trap is safer than a slow death trap is illogical and rather silly. I agree. I saw some near misses especially at bus stops. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 27, 2023 17:22:57 GMT
I know they were dangerous, but the two limitations mentioned meant they did not have sufficient power to keep up with the flow of traffic, and the law additionally limits them to 15MPH. Nearly every local road is 30 so they needed to do more than double the speed. I'm just saying the single seater low down aerodynamic form is a good one but tends to fail with Amstrad construction techniques. Lets say we use an alloy space frame and a carbon fibre body with a 5kW motor and was fully computerised with an colour touch screen and heating for the winter. Now we would be talking about a far better thing. Make it independent suspension as well for even better handling and increase the price point. Still missing the point. They were a death trap from the start. Claiming that a fast death trap is safer than a slow death trap is illogical and rather silly. If you go at the speed of the rest of the traffic the relative speed is zero. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 27, 2023 17:25:11 GMT
Still missing the point. They were a death trap from the start. Claiming that a fast death trap is safer than a slow death trap is illogical and rather silly. I agree. I saw some near misses especially at bus stops. Can you explain the significance of the bus stop or were you just standing at one at the time to catch a a bus yourself? |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 27, 2023 17:45:22 GMT
Still missing the point. They were a death trap from the start. Claiming that a fast death trap is safer than a slow death trap is illogical and rather silly. If you go at the speed of the rest of the traffic the relative speed is zero. Did you ever get your full driving license? |
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