|
|
Post by buccaneer on Jan 22, 2023 2:22:31 GMT
I suppose that might be another legal ground for the claimant. It all adds up. I still say it's overkill, though. What with up to 65% now saying Brexit was a mistake and all. The polls got it very wrong with Brexit so until there is another referendum we won't know. Yet except a few very MPs the rest are not being inundated with demands for another referendum. Quite. Remainers and their credentials with polls are a bit of a joke. |
|
|
|
Post by Einhorn on Jan 22, 2023 11:51:59 GMT
The polls got it very wrong with Brexit so until there is another referendum we won't know. Yet except a few very MPs the rest are not being inundated with demands for another referendum. Quite. Remainers and their credentials with polls are a bit of a joke. Yet, you're to be found in other parts of the forum basing your views on the result of polls, Bubbles. |
|
|
|
Post by sandypine on Jan 22, 2023 12:34:29 GMT
The polls got it very wrong with Brexit so until there is another referendum we won't know. Yet except a few very MPs the rest are not being inundated with demands for another referendum. I don't remember much about the polls pre-Brexit. I was watching an old episode of Mock the Week on Dave a while ago. It was shot a couple of weeks before the referendum. They discussed a poll that had just come out which suggested that the Leave side might win. That's pretty much all I can tell you about it. Aren't you interested to know whether there was Russian interference? I suppose it's important to investigate for the sake of democracy, but I don't see that a finding that there was interference will have much practical effect. 2/3s of the population think Brexit was a mistake, so, purely from the Remainers' point of view, a finding of interference would be surplus to requirements. Depends what you mean by interference. A foreign national passing a comment either way is interference. The internet is a prime tool for any sort of interference or would we call it presenting the facts or discussing the topic. A finding of interference would not be surplus to requirements it would be another lever to hoist us back into the EU in some size shape or form. Is specifically designed to be such and will no doubt be used as such. |
|
|
|
Post by Einhorn on Jan 22, 2023 12:39:10 GMT
I don't remember much about the polls pre-Brexit. I was watching an old episode of Mock the Week on Dave a while ago. It was shot a couple of weeks before the referendum. They discussed a poll that had just come out which suggested that the Leave side might win. That's pretty much all I can tell you about it. Aren't you interested to know whether there was Russian interference? I suppose it's important to investigate for the sake of democracy, but I don't see that a finding that there was interference will have much practical effect. 2/3s of the population think Brexit was a mistake, so, purely from the Remainers' point of view, a finding of interference would be surplus to requirements. Depends what you mean by interference. A foreign national passing a comment either way is interference. The internet is a prime tool for any sort of interference or would we call it presenting the facts or discussing the topic. A finding of interference would not be surplus to requirements it would be another lever to hoist us back into the EU in some size shape or form. Is specifically designed to be such and will no doubt be used as such. I think it's surplus to requirements. Of course, it won't hurt and it's important to democracy, but it's not necessary as far as turning public opinion against Brexit is concerned - that already has it's own momentum. |
|
|
|
Post by sandypine on Jan 22, 2023 13:16:50 GMT
Depends what you mean by interference. A foreign national passing a comment either way is interference. The internet is a prime tool for any sort of interference or would we call it presenting the facts or discussing the topic. A finding of interference would not be surplus to requirements it would be another lever to hoist us back into the EU in some size shape or form. Is specifically designed to be such and will no doubt be used as such. I think it's surplus to requirements. Of course, it won't hurt and it's important to democracy, but it's not necessary as far as turning public opinion against Brexit is concerned - that already has it's own momentum. Momentum has to have a driving force behind it. I wonder what that was? |
|
|
|
Post by Einhorn on Jan 22, 2023 13:21:44 GMT
I think it's surplus to requirements. Of course, it won't hurt and it's important to democracy, but it's not necessary as far as turning public opinion against Brexit is concerned - that already has it's own momentum. Momentum has to have a driving force behind it. I wonder what that was? The power of prayer? |
|
|
|
Post by buccaneer on Jan 22, 2023 13:27:53 GMT
Quite. Remainers and their credentials with polls are a bit of a joke. Yet, you're to be found in other parts of the forum basing your views on the result of polls, Bubbles. Only because I've been on the right side of history, whiney. |
|
|
|
Post by Montegriffo on Jan 22, 2023 13:27:57 GMT
There was definite American interference in the poll. Remember Obama telling us that we would be "at the back of the queue" for any trade deal? www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/22/barack-obama-brexit-uk-back-of-queue-for-trade-talksAmericans don't use that term. They use the word "line" not queue. Cameron had obviously primed him on what to say as a part of the government remain strategy. The fact is we do not have a free trade deal with the USA, and guess what - there is no dedicated free trade agreement between the EU and the USA either. So you think you're informed enough to know that we say queue and American's say line but Obama had to be schooled by Cameron? I don't think that would stand up as evidence of interference in a court of law. |
|
|
|
Post by Einhorn on Jan 22, 2023 13:29:44 GMT
Yet, you're to be found in other parts of the forum basing your views on the result of polls, Bubbles. Only because I've been on the right side of history, whiney. You're part of the 32%, Johnny. |
|
|
|
Post by buccaneer on Jan 22, 2023 13:35:47 GMT
Still dossing and squatting in this section of the forum shows that I'm part of the mob that have triggered you for seven continuous years, whoiney.
Long may it last.
|
|
|
|
Post by buccaneer on Jan 22, 2023 13:39:30 GMT
There was definite American interference in the poll. Remember Obama telling us that we would be "at the back of the queue" for any trade deal? www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/22/barack-obama-brexit-uk-back-of-queue-for-trade-talksAmericans don't use that term. They use the word "line" not queue. Cameron had obviously primed him on what to say as a part of the government remain strategy. The fact is we do not have a free trade deal with the USA, and guess what - there is no dedicated free trade agreement between the EU and the USA either. So you think you're informed enough to know that we say queue and American's say line but Obama had to be schooled by Cameron? I don't think that would stand up as evidence of interference in a court of law. Neither do conspiracy theories about Russian interference. |
|
|
|
Post by Einhorn on Jan 22, 2023 13:40:34 GMT
Still dossing and squatting in this section of the forum shows that I'm part of the mob that have triggered you for seven continuous years, whoiney. Long may it last. You're part of the 32%, Johnny. |
|
|
|
Post by buccaneer on Jan 22, 2023 13:41:53 GMT
Still dossing and squatting in this section of the forum shows that I'm part of the mob that have triggered you for seven continuous years, whoiney. Long may it last. You're part of the 32%, Johnny. Seven years and your still triggered. We live rent free in your head. |
|
|
|
Post by Einhorn on Jan 22, 2023 13:44:27 GMT
You're part of the 32%, Johnny. Seven years and your still triggered. We live rent free in your head. Aaarh! Rubber Band, the dark avenger of the Spanish main! |
|
|
|
Post by jonksy on Jan 23, 2023 13:03:18 GMT
Take your own poll, then. If I did none of the lefty woke remaniacs would be asked. As how the fuck could you trust them? |
|
