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Post by Bentley on Jan 8, 2023 12:26:20 GMT
If Wales has tons of water then it will supply Manchester and beyond . And you are correct , if we need to construct reservoirs and Nuclear power stations , wind turbines and any other of sources then we will. If importing water from Scotland is the best option then will will do that . So what? No matey. You are not grasping what I say. No wonder England is bankrupt. In terms of water rom wales. You deal with them. Not me. In terms of energy. You will be reliant on Nuclear. Some 95%. Massive wind turbines will supply a few thousand homes. End of Not heavy industry. Scotland only has a population of some 5.4 million. All those infrastructures from wind and wave to hydro electric to wind have been the priority of the Scottish government since it took power. Scotland can now power itself twice over on wind alone. And can supply all its needs from house holder to business at 3.7 pence per KW hour. It is costing the Scots 50 pence per KW hour to subsidice you. That is what Nuclear costs. Irrespective of the cost power as it enters the NG. When Hinkley Point comes on line. Owned by the French. Your countrymen, not mine estimates that 50p per KW hour will cost a £1.. I really do not care what you pay for energy. I Worry about what I pay. If you care to read what I said. Energy rich Scotland will have a two tier system. One singular for domestic consumption costing the Scottish user 3.7 pence per KW hour. Including business. Not 50p per KW hour as it is paying now. To subsidice you. The other into the NG selling for £1 per KW hour or cheaper. That' to you. If you cannot grasp the implications. I cannot help you. www.zmescience.com/ecology/scotland-wind-energy-094233/ Nope. It’s you that is not grasping the point . If Scotland leaves the union , the UK may import water from Scotland either permanently or temporarily. Whatever is the most viable approach. It will meet its energy needs in the same manner and use whatever technology that is available . Your energy needs and how you solve them will be of little concern to us. On a scale of 1 to 10 , how disappointed will you be when you realise that the English do not give a fuck about the Scots leaving the union?
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Post by Bentley on Jan 8, 2023 12:27:35 GMT
Ok so if it’s viable England will import water from Scotland . So what ? Its called money. Not so what. Again so what? We import resources from all over the world .
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Post by om15 on Jan 8, 2023 12:29:53 GMT
McVities had been in business in Scotland since 1830, however, the new owners were aghast at the policies of the SNP administration and felt their business would thrive in England, so closed down a few months ago, 500 jobs gone plus the knock on effects to the local community. This is the tip of the iceberg, no tartan sentiment in business, the looney left SNP being driven by the greens will make all businesses look over the border into England where they could make more profits and McVities is just the first to go. I shouldn't be to complacent at retaining your current business incomes, biscuits, banking, ferry manufacturing will all be driven south by Sturgeons net zero green mad plans.
If Scotland produces more energy than it needs this can be sold to England, or does your narrow parochial insular SNP mindset preclude any trade whatsoever with England? You can sell us energy and we can sell you Buckfast, simple trade, been going on for centuries.
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Post by Bentley on Jan 8, 2023 12:33:26 GMT
This is the point . Our Scottish friend seems to think that Scottish trade between England and Scotland is a victory for Scotland . It’s just..stupid …😁
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Post by jaydee on Jan 8, 2023 12:42:26 GMT
No matey. You are not grasping what I say. No wonder England is bankrupt. In terms of water from wales. You deal with them. Not me. In terms of energy. You will be reliant on Nuclear. Some 95%. Massive wind turbines will supply a few thousand homes. End of Not heavy industry. Scotland only has a population of some 5.4 million. All those infrastructures from wind and wave to hydro electric to wind have been the priority of the Scottish government since it took power. Scotland can now power itself twice over on wind alone. And can supply all its needs from house holder to business at 3.7 pence per KW hour. It is costing the Scots 50 pence per KW hour to subsidice you. That is what Nuclear costs. Irrespective of the cost power as it enters the NG. When Hinkley Point comes on line. Owned by the French. Your countrymen, not mine estimates that 50p per KW hour will cost a £1.. I really do not care what you pay for energy. I Worry about what I pay. If you care to read what I said. Energy rich Scotland will have a two tier system. One singular for domestic consumption costing the Scottish user 3.7 pence per KW hour. Including business. Not 50p per KW hour as it is paying now. To subsidice you. The other into the NG selling for £1 per KW hour or cheaper. That' to you. If you cannot grasp the implications. I cannot help you. www.zmescience.com/ecology/scotland-wind-energy-094233/ Nope. It’s you that is not grasping the point . If Scotland leaves the union , the UK may import water from Scotland either permanently or temporarily. Whatever is the most viable approach. It will meet its energy needs in the same manner and use whatever technology that is available . Your energy needs and how you solve them will be of little concern to us. On a scale of 1 to 10 , how disappointed will you be when you realise that the English do not give a fuck about the Scots leaving the union? I was talking about Scotland leaving the Union. Energy is a retained matter. And the technology England needs. Not Scotland, is Nuclear. A copy and paste England is simply going to be reliant on Nuclear and fossil fuel for ever. Although it is clear despite the fanny there is more oil and gas left in the North sea than has been taken out. That is why the Westminster wankers have issued over 100 licences to explore, and plunder more of Scottish assets. . The question the English need to ask. Not the Scots. What will happen when the North sea finally runs out. Buy it from Russia. Now the reality. England has to close down 8 existing out of date nuclear power plants. And rebuild 9 new ones. Going by Hinkley Point,owned by the French now 5 years overdue and billions over cost. Will come in at around £600 billion. Plus a never ending £1 billion a year decommissioning. You put your cost on it. Not to mention. That when Hinkley point does come on line. It has now been established that 50 pence will now cost in the region of £1 for it to make a profit. Now if anyone cannot see the difference between 3.7 pence and £1pound. I cannot help them. That £600 billion matey is to be paid for by the taxpayer as it stands. Thats me. That matey to put it in perspective, plus the £1billion a year for ever. Is just short of the entire UK tax intake for a year. Now you tell me why I should pay for your power stations. Then you tell me why I should pay when they do come on line £1 per KW hour. When I can pay 3.7 pence per KW hour. I am not interested on what you pay. Or interested in that you are happy with paying that. Which is bollocks. Reality has bitten you on the bum. That's your problem. And the subject of the OP. Why Scotland can no longer afford bankrupt England
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Post by Bentley on Jan 8, 2023 12:47:47 GMT
Nope. It’s you that is not grasping the point . If Scotland leaves the union , the UK may import water from Scotland either permanently or temporarily. Whatever is the most viable approach. It will meet its energy needs in the same manner and use whatever technology that is available . Your energy needs and how you solve them will be of little concern to us. On a scale of 1 to 10 , how disappointed will you be when you realise that the English do not give a fuck about the Scots leaving the union? I was talking about Scotland leaving the Union. Energy is a retained matter. And the technology England needs. Not Scotland, is Nuclear. A copy and paste England is simply going to be reliant on Nuclear and fossil fuel for ever. Although it is clear despite the fanny there is more oil and gas left in the North sea than has been taken out. That is why the Westminster wankers have issued over 100 licences to explore, and plunder more of Scottish assets. . The question the English need to ask. Not the Scots. What will happen when the North sea finally runs out. Buy it from Russia. Now the reality. England has to close down 8 existing out of date nuclear power plants. And rebuild 9 new ones. Going by Hinkley Point,owned by the French now 5 years overdue and billions over cost. Will come in at around £600 billion. Plus a never ending £1 billion a year decommissioning. You put your cost on it. Not to mention. That when Hinkley point does come on line. It has now been established that 50 pence will now cost in the region of £1 for it to make a profit. Now if anyone cannot see the difference between 3.7 pence and £1pound. I cannot help them. That £600 billion matey is to be paid for by the taxpayer as it stands. Thats me. That matey to put it in perspective, plus the £1billion a year for ever. Is just short of the entire UK tax intake for a year. Now you tell me why I should pay for your power stations. Then you tell me why I should pay when they do come on line £1 per KW hour. When I can pay 3.7 pence per KW hour. I am not interested on what you pay. Or interested in that you are happy with paying that. Which is bollocks. Reality has bitten you on the bum. That's your problem. And the subject of the OP. Why Scotland can no longer afford bankrupt England England is going to be reliant in whatever technology or sources that are obtainable and achievable at the time . Why are you bothered about Hinckley point if you are confident that Scotland will leave the union . Now I’ll ask again ..On a scale of 1 to 10 , how disappointed will you be when you realise that the English do not give a fuck about the Scots leaving the union?
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Post by jaydee on Jan 8, 2023 13:01:29 GMT
McVities had been in business in Scotland since 1830, however, the new owners were aghast at the policies of the SNP administration and felt their business would thrive in England, so closed down a few months ago, 500 jobs gone plus the knock on effects to the local community. This is the tip of the iceberg, no tartan sentiment in business, the looney left SNP being driven by the greens will make all businesses look over the border into England where they could make more profits and McVities is just the first to go. I shouldn't be to complacent at retaining your current business incomes, biscuits, banking, ferry manufacturing will all be driven south by Sturgeons net zero green mad plans. If Scotland produces more energy than it needs this can be sold to England, or does your narrow parochial insular SNP mindset preclude any trade whatsoever with England? You can sell us energy and we can sell you Buckfast, simple trade, been going on for centuries. Ah Mr Stupid. I do wonder how more stupid you can actually get. You never fail. Energy is already sold to England. It goes direct to the UK treasury. From which under present constitional arrangement the ScotGov receives back a share under Barnett of 8. 4%. And why bankrupt England would need to borrow a further £100 billion more than it does now. Just to sand down. Once Scotland goes its merry way. And the ScotGoiv does not have a Energy policy it is a retained matter. Now if Scotland was on its own. I have just pointed out what it is. And Mcvities was paying 3.7 per KW hour instead of 50 pence per KW hour for energy. You tell me what they would do. And no maey you were the one ranting about borders and trade. I have no issue about Scotland selling anything to anybody. Scotland exports twice as much per head as England. My issue is where the profit goes. Subsiding you. Have you got in touch with the ferry companies yet. You better hurry up they might all die before you do. According to your Jock hating drivel. By the way. Some 14% of total company insolvencies for England and Wales in the first half of 2022. It registered 802 company insolvencies in Quarter 2 2022 – its highest level since Quarter 1 2012. I will let you research for the year in bankrupt England. In terms of Scoland. Not even close. You really do bring to a new level the meaning of the word imbecile.
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Post by om15 on Jan 8, 2023 13:04:00 GMT
Jaydee, do you and your fellow head banger cavemen really think that the UK Government will allow themselves to be dependent on energy from an independent Scotland? Of course they won't, that is why they simply refuse to give you another referendum, and there is not a lot you can do about it.
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Post by jaydee on Jan 8, 2023 13:20:16 GMT
I was talking about Scotland leaving the Union. Energy is a retained matter. And the technology England needs. Not Scotland, is Nuclear. A copy and paste England is simply going to be reliant on Nuclear and fossil fuel for ever. Although it is clear despite the fanny there is more oil and gas left in the North sea than has been taken out. That is why the Westminster wankers have issued over 100 licences to explore, and plunder more of Scottish assets. . The question the English need to ask. Not the Scots. What will happen when the North sea finally runs out. Buy it from Russia. Now the reality. England has to close down 8 existing out of date nuclear power plants. And rebuild 9 new ones. Going by Hinkley Point,owned by the French now 5 years overdue and billions over cost. Will come in at around £600 billion. Plus a never ending £1 billion a year decommissioning. You put your cost on it. Not to mention. That when Hinkley point does come on line. It has now been established that 50 pence will now cost in the region of £1 for it to make a profit. Now if anyone cannot see the difference between 3.7 pence and £1pound. I cannot help them. That £600 billion matey is to be paid for by the taxpayer as it stands. Thats me. That matey to put it in perspective, plus the £1billion a year for ever. Is just short of the entire UK tax intake for a year. Now you tell me why I should pay for your power stations. Then you tell me why I should pay when they do come on line £1 per KW hour. When I can pay 3.7 pence per KW hour. I am not interested on what you pay. Or interested in that you are happy with paying that. Which is bollocks. Reality has bitten you on the bum. That's your problem. And the subject of the OP. Why Scotland can no longer afford bankrupt England England is going to be reliant in whatever technology or sources that are obtainable and achievable at the time . Why are you bothered about Hinckley point if you are confident that Scotland will leave the union . Now I’ll ask again ..On a scale of 1 to 10 , how disappointed will you be when you realise that the English do not give a fuck about the Scots leaving the union? I am bothered about Hinkley point because when it come on line. The rice of my electricity will double subsidicing you. Plus if you go by that. It will give you some idea of the cost of he massive energy problem England is about to enter into. I gave you my estimate. You put yours on it. And if you are not interested in cost of your energy bill when it doubles. That's your problem. In term of he scale of 1 to 10. Could you tell me why two or three weeks backs. English Tory's flooded the floor and a defeated a opposition motion of changing the wording in the Scotland Act that the competence of a indy should be a matter for Holyrood. The defeat was 270 to 40. Or thereabout. What you mean matey is. You do not give a flying fuck. But 270 Englsih Torys do. As he know and as I have stated. when Scotland does leave the Union. bankrupt England will have to borrow at least £100 billion more than it does now. That just to stand still. Apart from England having a massive domestic debt of £2,8 trillion. Yes that really is £2,800,000,000,000 and rising at over £5,000 per second it also has a £8.73 trillion external debt. beaten only by the USofA. Yes that really is £8,730,000,000,000And why it will still be between the 28th and 38th Richest country in the world. That's basket case third world economics. But of course you state you do not give a fuck. And the reason 270 Westminster wankers voted en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt .
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Post by Bentley on Jan 8, 2023 13:31:13 GMT
England is going to be reliant in whatever technology or sources that are obtainable and achievable at the time . Why are you bothered about Hinckley point if you are confident that Scotland will leave the union . Now I’ll ask again ..On a scale of 1 to 10 , how disappointed will you be when you realise that the English do not give a fuck about the Scots leaving the union? I am bothered about Hinkley point because when it come on line. The rice of my electricity will double subsidicing you. Plus if you go by that. It will give you some idea of the cost of he massive energy problem England is about to enter into. I gave you my estimate. You put yours on it. And if you are not interested in cost of your energy bill when it doubles. That's your problem. In term of he scale of 1 to 10. Could you tell me why two or three weeks backs. English Tory's flooded the floor and a defeated a opposition motion of changing the wording in the Scotland Act that the competence of a indy should be a matter for Holyrood. The defeat was 270 to 40. Or thereabout. What you mean matey is. You do not give a flying fuck. But 270 Englsih Torys do. As he know and as I have stated. when Scotland does leave the Union. bankrupt England will have to borrow at least £100 billion more than it does now. That just to stand still. Apart from England having a massive domestic debt of £2,8 trillion. Yes that really is £2,800,000,000,000 and rising at over £5,000 per second it also has a £8.73 trillion external debt. beaten only by the USofA. Yes that really is £8,730,000,000,000And why it will still be between the 28th and 38th Richest country in the world. That's basket case third world economics. But of course you state you do not give a fuck. And the reason 270 Westminster wankers voted en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt . There you go evading the question with verbiage and more questions . If you are confident that Scotland is leaving the union then why are you obsessed about English affairs? How will you feel when you realise that very few in England will care a jot if the Scot Nats get their way? I don’t want verbiage , goalpost shifting and rants .
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Post by jaydee on Jan 8, 2023 13:31:39 GMT
Jaydee, do you and your fellow head banger cavemen really think that the UK Government will allow themselves to be dependent on energy from an independent Scotland? Of course they won't, that is why they simply refuse to give you another referendum, and there is not a lot you can do about it. Do you ever read what is said. Where did I say they were relient. I said England will be reliant on Nuclear and fossil fuel for ever, ask the French they own your energy. As it stands costing 50 pence per KW hour. When Scotland right now can produce enough to power itself at 3.7 pence per KW hour. It is retained Why should the Scottish energy user pay £1 perf KW hour when it can pay 3.7 pence per KW hour. And in terms of the Westminster wankers allowing. They have been dithering on energy in England since they took power. Those old 8 nuclear power stations should have been closed down years ago and the 9 new ones built. And the first one. Hinkley point. Billions over budget and years behind completion is still having problems. As once more you bring to a new level the meaning of the word imbecile. You cannot even understand what is posted,. Putting your normal Jock hating drivel on it. Would you care to correct anything i have said. The answer No.
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Post by jaydee on Jan 8, 2023 13:39:43 GMT
I am bothered about Hinkley point because when it come on line. The rice of my electricity will double subsidicing you. Plus if you go by that. It will give you some idea of the cost of he massive energy problem England is about to enter into. I gave you my estimate. You put yours on it. And if you are not interested in cost of your energy bill when it doubles. That's your problem. In term of he scale of 1 to 10. Could you tell me why two or three weeks backs. English Tory's flooded the floor and a defeated a opposition motion of changing the wording in the Scotland Act that the competence of a indy should be a matter for Holyrood. The defeat was 270 to 40. Or thereabout. What you mean matey is. You do not give a flying fuck. But 270 Englsih Torys do. As he know and as I have stated. when Scotland does leave the Union. bankrupt England will have to borrow at least £100 billion more than it does now. That just to stand still. Apart from England having a massive domestic debt of £2,8 trillion. Yes that really is £2,800,000,000,000 and rising at over £5,000 per second it also has a £8.73 trillion external debt. beaten only by the USofA. Yes that really is £8,730,000,000,000And why it will still be between the 28th and 38th Richest country in the world. That's basket case third world economics. But of course you state you do not give a fuck. And the reason 270 Westminster wankers voted en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt . There you go evading the question with verbiage and more questions . If you are confident that Scotland is leaving the union then why are you obsessed about English affairs? How will you feel when you realise that very few in England will care a jot if the Scot Nats get their way? I don’t want verbiage , goalpost shifting and rants . I am not evading any questions. You just said the English would not give a flying fuck if the Scots left the Union. . I just pointed out ho o so wrong you are. Some 270 Westminster Tory wanker did give a fuck. What are you evading. I am not in the least interested in English affairs. I am inserted in Westminster affairs that affect me. Why are you interested in Scottish affairs, that do not affect you in the least .You do not have a clue do you. Or cost you as a English tax payer one penny. And to make it clear as you have just ranted. England is not the UK or Westminster with its retained matters. That you clearly do not have a clue what it means
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Post by jaydee on Jan 8, 2023 13:42:44 GMT
There you go evading the question with verbiage and more questions . If you are confident that Scotland is leaving the union then why are you obsessed about English affairs? How will you feel when you realise that very few in England will care a jot if the Scot Nats get their way? I don’t want verbiage , goalpost shifting and rants . I am not evading any questions. You just said the English would not give a flying fuck if the Scots left the Union. . I just pointed out how o so wrong you are. Some 270 Westminster Tory wanker did give a fuck. What are you evading. I am not in the least interested in English affairs. I am interested in Westminster affairs that affect me. Why are you interested in Scottish affairs, that do not affect you in the least .You do not have a clue do you. Or cost you as a English tax payer one penny. And to make it clear as you have just ranted. England is not the UK or Westminster with its retained matters. That you clearly do not have a clue what it means
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Post by Bentley on Jan 8, 2023 13:56:52 GMT
There you go evading the question with verbiage and more questions . If you are confident that Scotland is leaving the union then why are you obsessed about English affairs? How will you feel when you realise that very few in England will care a jot if the Scot Nats get their way? I don’t want verbiage , goalpost shifting and rants . I am not evading any questions. You just said the English would not give a flying fuck if the Scots left the Union. . I just pointed out ho o so wrong you are. Some 270 Westminster Tory wanker did give a fuck. What are you evading. I am not in the least interested in English affairs. I am inserted in Westminster affairs that affect me. Why are you interested in Scottish affairs, that do not affect you in the least .You do not have a clue do you. Or cost you as a English tax payer one penny. And to make it clear as you have just ranted. England is not the UK or Westminster with its retained matters. That you clearly do not have a clue what it means You are evading the question and still are. I never argued that the English SHOULD care if the Scots leave the union . I wondered what you will feel when you find out that they dont . I didn’t rant . I asked you two questions that you have avoided . Now how about answering them . Why do you care about English affairs post Scot independence and why do you care if the English don’t care one bit? Last chance .
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Post by jaydee on Jan 8, 2023 19:19:16 GMT
I am not evading any questions. You just said the English would not give a flying fuck if the Scots left the Union. . I just pointed out ho o so wrong you are. Some 270 Westminster Tory wanker did give a fuck. What are you evading. I am not in the least interested in English affairs. I am inserted in Westminster affairs that affect me. Why are you interested in Scottish affairs, that do not affect you in the least .You do not have a clue do you. Or cost you as a English tax payer one penny. And to make it clear as you have just ranted. England is not the UK or Westminster with its retained matters. That you clearly do not have a clue what it means You are evading the question and still are. I never argued that the English SHOULD care if the Scots leave the union . I wondered what you will feel when you find out that they dont . I didn’t rant . I asked you two questions that you have avoided . Now how about answering them . Why do you care about English affairs post Scot independence and why do you care if the English don’t care one bit? Last chance . No matey you are evading question. You said the English could not give a fuck if the Scots left or not. Let me repeat what you said verbatim, as you now rant different. On a scale of 1 to 10 , how disappointed will you be when you realise that the English do not give a fuck about the Scots leaving the union? As you now see what I mean about silly Englishmen It was nonsensical rubbish as I pointed out 270 Westminster Tory wankers think otherwise. Meaning you do not give a fuck.That is a different issue. You asked the question I gave the answer. Or to put it another way. The quicker the Scots leave the bankrupt lying, corrupt, discredited sleaze bag ridden union. The better. Does that answer your question. I did not ask you to like it. Now how about you pointing out what English affairs are you on about. I have already told you. I am not in the least interested or care. As long as it does not cost me. That is matter for the English. Second time I have asked. Why are you interested in Scottish politics that does not cost you as a Englsih tax payer one penny. You do not have a clue do you. You just want to rant drivel. Take your time. Try and get this one correct. .
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